I was told NOT to buy the newer version of the supplement and to stick to the OLD formula by Douglas Lab's..is there really a difference?

I'm in Canada, and the first bottle of Wobenzym N I bought at my local Natural supplement store was by Douglas Lab's. That was what is available here, and it was very expensive. Then I found out that I could order it on line from the United States for less than half the price. The distributor is Garden of Life but I ordered it twice on a deal through Amazon Marketplace, which showed me various providers, and I chose the cheapest provider. To answer your question, I found both products to be the same. For me Wobenzym N from Garden of Life seems to provide the same level of joint care and healing as the one from Douglas Lab's. I hope this is helpful for you.

Is this suitable for vegans? (No animal derived products, by products or testing)

It depends what you mean by "suitable". It's definitely not vegan, as some of the enzymes are derived from animals. If you're vegan due to allergies to animal based foods, it's for sure not suitable! Otherwise I guess it's your choice.

Just bought the 800 count bottle & bottle a weird strong smell almost like ammonia. Never noticed it before in 3+ years of use. Is odor normal?

It smells like "cat urine" -- you know; the cat box. Deal with it -- 'cause this stuff really works !!! I'm 67 and I've been using it for over 8 years -- and I'm now a believer. When I DON'T use it, the "arthritis" symptoms bother me in both hands, especially the knuckles. But when I use it -- the discomfort disappears in 3-4 days and I regain full range of motion in my hands and grip strength. GREAT STUFF and well worth the money. I'm a customer FOREVER !!

why does everyone say this isn't legit? I have a bottle here and it says "made in Germany."

When Garden of Life took over the distribution of Wobenzym N in the USA, we reviewed the product ingredients and Mucos Pharma (the manufacturer) re-worked the “other ingredients” to deliver a Wobenzym N formula that fits into Garden of Life’s philosophies and principles. Keeping the original Active Ingredients was of extreme importance because of the clinical data behind them. Mucos Pharma is still the manufacturer of Wobenzym N and the product is still made in Germany. The ingredients which were removed included: Calcium phosphate, Corn polysaccharides, Microcrystalline cellulose, Crospovidone, Polyethylene glycol, Silica, pH resistant enteric coating, Magnesium silicate, and Triethyl citrate. The new, cleaner tablet is made using cellulose, vegetable-based enteric coating, vegetable stearate, natural vanilla flavor and purified water. I hope the above information helps shed some light on the product formula change. To learn more about Wobenzym N, please visit our website: https://www.gardenoflife.com/content/product/wobenzym-n/ In Health, Erin M. Garden of Life

Additives	Pancreatin, Papain, Bromelain
Weight	0.16 Pounds
Units	100 count
Serving Recommendation	3 tablets twice a day
Brand	Garden of Life
Format	Tablet
Age Range Description	Adult

Garden of Life Joint Supplement for Men and Women - Wobenzym N Systemic Enzymes, Clinically Studied Formula for Healthy Joints, Mobility, Flexibility, Post-Exercise Recovery, Gluten Free, 100 Tablets

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